From pmj at comhem.se Tue Oct 5 03:18:47 2004 From: pmj at comhem.se (Peter Johansson) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:18:47 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] test - just throw away In-Reply-To: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2063F292A@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> References: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2063F292A@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> Message-ID: <416185F7.8000106@comhem.se> Sorry all! Just testing the list. Haven't recieved anything in two weeks. Just testing to see if it works. /Peter J Den, Tony T wrote: >Thanks mate, I am going to try an OCR approach and see how it goes. > >-----Original Message----- >From: rq-rules-bounces at crashbox.com > Leon Kirshtein > > >I have been doing a lot of this. > > >I usually looked for a module which is already n >electronic format, so I did not have to worry about >that. > >It depends. In some modules you may wish to remove >some monsters all together, since RQ combat is much >more deadly. Also D&D tends to thrive of monster >ambiguity, you may wish to simplify this, for example >i have combined the various humaniod races and made >most of them orcs. > > >__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > >For information about the Standard Bank group visit our web site >__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > >Disclaimer and confidentiality note >Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Standard Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the group. >It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. >Standard Bank does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the group. >The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. 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Gianni From Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za Tue Oct 5 23:41:00 2004 From: Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za (Den, Tony T) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 15:41:00 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Some Activity Message-ID: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2060578EB0E@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> Ah ha ha ha, personally I would liek to know when I am going to stop being outbid for River of Cradles on eBay. -----Original Message----- Gianni Me, what I'd like to know is: WHEN IS DELUXE BRP GOING TO BE AVAILABLE??? 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Standard Bank can not assure that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that it is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From leonbk at yahoo.com Wed Oct 6 00:03:56 2004 From: leonbk at yahoo.com (Leon Kirshtein) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 07:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Some Activity In-Reply-To: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2060578EB0E@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> Message-ID: <20041005140356.70526.qmail@web41122.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Den, Tony T" wrote: > Ah ha ha ha, personally I would liek to know when I > am going to stop being > outbid for River of Cradles on eBay. I know this one!! When you offer more money then everybody else? Did I get it right? ===== Leon Kirshtein www.godlearner.d2g.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za Wed Oct 6 00:14:45 2004 From: Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za (Den, Tony T) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:14:45 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Some Activity Message-ID: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2060578EB13@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> Shoowa, you got it right on the head. What annoys me is when Avalon Hill went bust, they had a list of stock products for sale, on eof which was River Of Cradles (many copies). They however refused to sell me one or a few as I am not in USA or a Retailer. Now the way ROC sells on eBay (even a tatty 1/2 complete version goes for at least USD10) it would have been feasible for some enterprising individual to take the oppertunity and buy a few crates of the books and flog them via eBay. Sadly I suspect that tehy are mustering in some basement box, or worse, pulped/destroyed in a if we can't sell them you can't have them free/low cost excercise by Ha$bro. I know this one!! 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Cheers, Nick Middleton From murfnmurf at suscom.net Wed Oct 6 01:17:38 2004 From: murfnmurf at suscom.net (murfnmurf at suscom.net) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:17:38 -0400 Subject: [RQ-Rules] That Pesky River of Cradles In-Reply-To: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2060578EB13@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> Message-ID: Well, the comments about RoC got me wondering, so I did a quick search, and, according to Google, Noble Knight Games has a copy for only $32 US---a price which, when weighed against the prospect of such a module being swallowed up by the Sands of Time *entirely*, seems not a too unreasonable price to me :) Of course, game cons are also a great source of low priced,hard to find stuff, too! Or,if you're in the *my* old stomping grounds, the Gamecastle in Fullerton, or Brookhurst Hobbies in Garden Grove (I am unfamiliar with LA county joints, however) :) Good hunting! -Ken Murphy- From tim at domibia.com Wed Oct 6 02:04:13 2004 From: tim at domibia.com (Tim Huntley) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:04:13 -0700 Subject: [RQ-Rules] That Pesky River of Cradles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041005160417.3155D222276@boomstick.screwheads.net> > the Gamecastle in Fullerton I know it well. Enough that I consider it my "local". :-) Although they don't have too much old RQ stuff. They do have the old Hawkmoon boxed set, and some older CoC stuff, though. Now All Star Games in Diamond Bar - they have two copies of the Troll Gods boxed set for RQ3, and a copy of Apple Lane for RQ3 as well. Heh, not that, you know, I keep tabs on that sort of stuff or anything. :-) Tim. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.771 / Virus Database: 518 - Release Date: 9/28/2004 From freyrvanic at earthlink.net Wed Oct 6 03:18:40 2004 From: freyrvanic at earthlink.net (Sven Lugar) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 10:18:40 -0700 Subject: [RQ-Rules] That Pesky River of Cradles Message-ID: <410-220041025171840921@earthlink.net> Having thoroughly searched "Last Grenadier" & the other L.A. County joints, I have found them denuded of anything RQ > [Original Message] > From: > To: RuneQuest rules discussion. ; RuneQuest rules discussion. > Date: 10/5/2004 8:17:38 AM > Subject: [RQ-Rules] That Pesky River of Cradles > > Well, the comments about RoC got me wondering, so I > did a quick search, and, according to Google, Noble Knight > Games has a copy for only $32 US---a price which, when > weighed against the prospect of such a module being > swallowed up by the Sands of Time *entirely*, seems not a > too unreasonable price to me :) > Of course, game cons are also a great source of low > priced,hard to find stuff, too! Or,if you're in the *my* > old stomping grounds, the Gamecastle in Fullerton, or > Brookhurst Hobbies in Garden Grove (I am unfamiliar with > LA county joints, however) :) > Good hunting! > -Ken Murphy- > _______________________________________________ > RQ-Rules mailing list > RQ-Rules at crashbox.com > http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules > http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules From jurrubin at earthlink.net Wed Oct 6 11:00:00 2004 From: jurrubin at earthlink.net (D. Smart) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:00:00 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] That Pesky River of Cradles In-Reply-To: <20041005160417.3155D222276@boomstick.screwheads.net> References: <20041005160417.3155D222276@boomstick.screwheads.net> Message-ID: <41634390.1040704@earthlink.net> The Hawkmoon boxed set?!? Aw, man! It _would_ be out of my reach, blast it! David Smart Tim Huntley wrote: >>the Gamecastle in Fullerton >> >> > >I know it well. Enough that I consider it my "local". :-) Although they >don't have too much old RQ stuff. They do have the old Hawkmoon boxed set, >and some older CoC stuff, though. > >Now All Star Games in Diamond Bar - they have two copies of the Troll Gods >boxed set for RQ3, and a copy of Apple Lane for RQ3 as well. > >Heh, not that, you know, I keep tabs on that sort of stuff or anything. :-) > >Tim. > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.771 / Virus Database: 518 - Release Date: 9/28/2004 > > >_______________________________________________ >RQ-Rules mailing list >RQ-Rules at crashbox.com >http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules >http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules > > > From Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za Wed Oct 6 16:13:41 2004 From: Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za (Den, Tony T) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:13:41 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] That Pesky River of Cradles Message-ID: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2060578EB1A@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> Yeah, I saw Noble knight had two copies recently. Saw another site a while back that had but didn't bookmark and can't seem to find it now. My prob is I pay USD32 for the game, add +- USD11 for [postrtage (Global priority flat rate envelope) = USD43 * 6.5 exchange rate = ZAR279 in my currency, which is pretty unreasonable for a second hand game suppliment here. Having said that, its unlikley that I will ever get a copy in South africa as teh rQ crew are few and far between here and unlikley to flog their gear. I suppose if I get desperate enough, I may go the Knoble Knight route. -----Original Message----- murfnmurf at suscom.net Well, the comments about RoC got me wondering, so I did a quick search, and, according to Google, Noble Knight Games has a copy for only $32 US---a price which, when weighed against the prospect of such a module being swallowed up by the Sands of Time *entirely*, seems not a too unreasonable price to me :) Of course, game cons are also a great source of low priced,hard to find stuff, too! Or,if you're in the *my* old stomping grounds, the Gamecastle in Fullerton, or Brookhurst Hobbies in Garden Grove (I am unfamiliar with LA county joints, however) :) Good hunting! -Ken Murphy- ______ __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ For information about the Standard Bank group visit our web site __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Standard Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the group. It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Standard Bank does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the group. The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. 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A good book, some great adventure hooks and scenarios. -----Original Message----- From: rq-rules-bounces at crashbox.com [mailto:rq-rules-bounces at crashbox.com]On Behalf Of Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Sent: 05 October 2004 04:28 To: RuneQuest rules discussion. Subject: RE: [RQ-Rules] Some Activity > >Ah ha ha ha, personally I would liek to know when I am going to stop being >outbid for River of Cradles on eBay. > I feel for you Tony, in my case it's Dorastor though, as through persistence I manager to complete my "zola fell" collection earlier this year. Cheers, Nick Middleton _______________________________________________ RQ-Rules mailing list RQ-Rules at crashbox.com http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ For information about the Standard Bank group visit our web site __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Standard Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the group. It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Standard Bank does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the group. The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. 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Looks like some poor blighter is gflogging his RQ collection on eBay and Dorastori is currently going for GBP4.20 which is highly reasonable. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZadfrenchehoQQsosortorderZ1QQsos ortpropertyZ1 __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ For information about the Standard Bank group visit our web site __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Standard Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the group. It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Standard Bank does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the group. 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Standard Bank can not assure that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that it is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Thu Oct 7 18:23:57 2004 From: Nick.Middleton at invensys.com (Nick.Middleton at invensys.com) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:23:57 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Dorastor Message-ID: >Nick Middleton wrote: > >I feel for you Tony, in my case it's Dorastor though, as through >persistence I manager to complete my "zola fell" collection earlier this >year. > >Looks like some poor blighter is gflogging his RQ collection on eBay and >Dorastori is currently going for GBP4.20 which is highly reasonable. > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZadfrenchehoQQsosortorderZ1QQsos >ortpropertyZ1 > Already watching it ;-) The problem is, after a few wild indiscretions when I first got on to eBay, I have strict limits I set myself about what I'll pay for items, which these days boil down to ?5-?10 including postage for idle curiosity items (I have to send a postal order of for a copy of the Metabarons Hardback as it piqued my interest and total it came to ?6) and ?20 for stuff I really want (with exceptions like the RQ Reprints obviously). These figures are also subject to where we are in the month: around pay day I allow myself more slack, further away and I am more disciplined... The last Dorastor to come up went over the ?20 boundary at the wrong point in the month, which is what usually happens... But I live in hope as it was within these rules within the last year or so that I picked up River of Cradles, Sun Dome County and Troll Pack (RQIII), the RQIII Boxed set (with Eldarad as a freebie inside!?!), Vikings and Monster Coliseum and the Gloranthan Bestiary. I actually have a better (more complete) Gloranthan RQ collection now than the one I sold (in the misguided belief I was going to give up role-playing...) in the mid 90's... I will however have to wait for a reprint of Horror on the Orient Express, as I'm NEVER paying that sort of money for a game supplement! Cheers, Nick Middleton From Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Thu Oct 7 18:26:39 2004 From: Nick.Middleton at invensys.com (Nick.Middleton at invensys.com) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:26:39 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] That Pesky River of Cradles Message-ID: > >The Hawkmoon boxed set?!? Aw, man! It _would_ be out of my reach, blast it! > >David Smart Other than for a real completist, you aren't missing much. It's a pale clone of Stormbringer 3rd Edition with Flamelances added to the weapons list... Well, that may be a bit harsh, but it really wasn't worth the exorbitant amount I paid for it when it was released as a separate game. Sadly it looks like the chances of seeing Darcsyde's Hawkmoon have receded once more :-( Mind, I'm sure a couple of copies were up on eBay UK recently... (can't check from work alas). Cheers, Nick Middleton From lorgryt.detroll at verizon.net Thu Oct 7 19:38:44 2004 From: lorgryt.detroll at verizon.net (Bo Whitten) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:38:44 -0700 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Dorastor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20041007023650.01cf37a8@incoming.verizon.net> Wow, I feel fortunate... just got a copy from e-bay for $3.99. That is the lowest I have ever seen it. I feel blessed by the gods! (Mostly Thed... RAPE! And she didn't even know it I bet.) Bo At 01:23 AM 10/7/2004, you wrote: >>Nick Middleton wrote: >> >>I feel for you Tony, in my case it's Dorastor though, as through >>persistence I manager to complete my "zola fell" collection earlier this >>year. >> >>Looks like some poor blighter is gflogging his RQ collection on eBay and >>Dorastori is currently going for GBP4.20 which is highly reasonable. >> >http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZadfrenchehoQQsosortorderZ1QQsos > >>ortpropertyZ1 >> > >Already watching it ;-) > >The problem is, after a few wild indiscretions when I first got on to eBay, >I have strict limits I set myself about what I'll pay for items, which >these days boil down to ?5-?10 including postage for idle curiosity items >(I have to send a postal order of for a copy of the Metabarons Hardback as >it piqued my interest and total it came to ?6) and ?20 for stuff I really >want (with exceptions like the RQ Reprints obviously). These figures are >also subject to where we are in the month: around pay day I allow myself >more slack, further away and I am more disciplined... The last Dorastor to >come up went over the ?20 boundary at the wrong point in the month, which >is what usually happens... > >But I live in hope as it was within these rules within the last year or so >that I picked up River of Cradles, Sun Dome County and Troll Pack (RQIII), >the RQIII Boxed set (with Eldarad as a freebie inside!?!), Vikings and >Monster Coliseum and the Gloranthan Bestiary. I actually have a better >(more complete) Gloranthan RQ collection now than the one I sold (in the >misguided belief I was going to give up role-playing...) in the mid 90's... > >I will however have to wait for a reprint of Horror on the Orient Express, >as I'm NEVER paying that sort of money for a game supplement! > > >Cheers, > > >Nick Middleton > > >_______________________________________________ >RQ-Rules mailing list >RQ-Rules at crashbox.com >http://www.crashbox.com/rq-rules >http://www.crashbox.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rq-rules From Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za Thu Oct 7 21:34:26 2004 From: Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za (Den, Tony T) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:34:26 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Dorastor Message-ID: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2060578EB65@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> >Nick Middleton wrote: > Already watching it ;-) The problem is, after a few wild indiscretions when I first got on to eBay, I have strict limits I set myself about what I'll pay for items, which these days boil down to ?5-?10 including postage for idle curiosity items (I have to send a postal order of for a copy of the Metabarons Hardback as it piqued my interest and total it came to ?6) and ?20 for stuff I really want (with exceptions like the RQ Reprints obviously). These figures are also subject to where we are in the month: around pay day I allow myself more slack, further away and I am more disciplined... The last Dorastor to come up went over the ?20 boundary at the wrong point in the month, which is what usually happens... snip. Ha ha, you summed up my first experience ont he eBay so well. Boy did I blow money on utter sh1te and/or pay three times as much as some gear was worth. Still, there are some bargaisn to eb had if you have patience, if it werent for the bay I woudl still be struggling to obtain even the most basic RQ gear like The Haunted Ruins or Glorantha Bestiary. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ For information about the Standard Bank group visit our web site __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Standard Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the group. It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Standard Bank does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the group. The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. 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Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Thu Oct 21 00:04:24 2004 From: Nick.Middleton at invensys.com (Nick.Middleton at invensys.com) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:04:24 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Casting spells on a ship Message-ID: Leon, my answers for my campaign, as ever YMMV: >I have a sorcerer who wishes to cast a Resist Fire >spell on a ship. Would the spell cover the entire >vessel? Yes, while any parts were part of the vessel but not otherwise. For example, if the ships boat were launched, such that it were no longer "part" of the original ship, then it would no longer be protected. Likewise, if one took an oar off the ship onto the quay, it would no longer be protected IMO. > Would the intensity be reduced? No, but the Sorcerer may well feel that he doesn't need to use as high an intensity as he would on say a wagon being used to cross the desert... I don't think the circumstances would affect the magic, but the Sorcerer can alter his manipulations to suit the circumstances. Cheers, Nick Middleton From bick10 at comcast.net Thu Oct 21 00:07:12 2004 From: bick10 at comcast.net (bick10 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:07:12 +0000 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Casting spells on a ship Message-ID: <102020041407.12040.4176710E0007E90D00002F082200737478CFCE050C070D@comcast.net> > Leon Kirshtein > I have a sorcerer who wishes to cast a Resist Fire > spell on a ship. Would the spell cover the entire > vessel? Would the intensity be reduced? > > I would like to hear your opinions, Okay, here is my opinions. The spell would be fine. As a matter of fact, I would consider that one of the options when a Caption is buying a new ship from the ship dealers lot. Reduced intensity? The quick answer is No. The long answer is...well...longer. If you use standard RQ3 sorcery rules, then it will take levels in Area to cover the ship. That will take Free Int, which reduces the number of Free Int available for Intensity. Also, don't forget about Duration. If you want the spell to last more than a few minutes, you need to add Duration to the spell, further reducing the Intensity. Oh, and these all need to be multispelled. Which, fortunately for the sorcerer doesn't cost Free Int. I would suggest, several spells for smallerish areas with months or a years worth of duration, then the rest of the Free Int in Intensity. Sorry, I don't have my books available, and can not give you exact figures on duration/free int cost. Jim From leonbk at yahoo.com Thu Oct 21 00:30:38 2004 From: leonbk at yahoo.com (Leon Kirshtein) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Casting spells on a ship In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041020143038.7044.qmail@web41102.mail.yahoo.com> --- Nick.Middleton at invensys.com wrote: > Yes, while any parts were part of the vessel but not > otherwise. For > example, if the ships boat were launched, such that > it were no longer > "part" of the original ship, then it would no longer > be protected. Agreed. > Likewise, if one took an oar off the ship onto the > quay, it would no longer be protected IMO. Humm, I am not sure that ship's contents would be protected at all. For example cargo, people and various items on deck would not be protected. Only that which is an integral part of the ship should get the benifit. > > Would the intensity be reduced? > > No, but the Sorcerer may well feel that he doesn't > need to use as high an > intensity as he would on say a wagon being used to > cross the desert... :) I have a sorcerer who uses a lot of fire magic. The Resist Fire is mostly to protect the ship against spill over from his own spells. The reason I am thinking of reduced Intensity, is that I remember an example using Multimissle on siege weapons. In the example a Multimissle 4 would only create an additional 2 missiles (instead of 4) for a Arbalest and only 1 additional missile for something like a trebuchet. ===== Leon Kirshtein www.godlearner.d2g.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From leonbk at yahoo.com Thu Oct 21 00:36:14 2004 From: leonbk at yahoo.com (Leon Kirshtein) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Casting spells on a ship In-Reply-To: <102020041407.12040.4176710E0007E90D00002F082200737478CFCE050C070D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20041020143614.24899.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> --- bick10 at comcast.net wrote: > Reduced intensity? The quick answer is No. The > long answer is...well...longer. If you use standard > RQ3 sorcery rules, then it will take levels in Area > to cover the ship. I do not use RQ3 Sorcery, rather a version of Sandy's system. In any case Area would translate into a separate Art and being in the middle of a campaign I doubt that it would be added. Therefore, I can simulate this by reducing the Intensity, saying that it would take 3 Intensity to give the ship FR 1, with the other 2 being assumed to make up for the area covered. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za Thu Oct 21 16:55:06 2004 From: Tony.Den at standardbank.co.za (Den, Tony T) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:55:06 +0200 Subject: [RQ-Rules] FW: [alternateearthrq] Sirrush Message-ID: <52B26EB23446704C801FCF722CF8D2060578ECE7@scmbjhbmsg03.scmbdirectory.com> I got no respionse on the alternateearthrq list for this posting, so reposting it here: -----Original Message----- From: Den, Tony Hi all List is a bit quiet! Has anyone given any thought into stats and a psyche for the Sirrush - a one horned slender Babylonian "dragon" depicted on the Ishtar Gate? I was thinking of writing something up, but would not want to go and duplicate any existing mythos. What I was considering would be a lanky, one horned flightless intelligent reptile fond of riddles, kinda like crocodile meets unicorn meets Greek sphinx. T?ny __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ For information about the Standard Bank group visit our web site __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Standard Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the group. It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. 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Does anyone here know if that ever saw the light of day? Stephen Posey slposey at concentric.net From soltakss at yahoo.com Fri Oct 22 03:06:24 2004 From: soltakss at yahoo.com (Simon Phipp) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:06:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: [RQ-Rules] Auctions, Casting spells on a ship In-Reply-To: <20041020140737.ECCDD2226F2@boomstick.screwheads.net> Message-ID: <20041021170624.36438.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com> > Looks like some poor blighter is gflogging his RQ collection on eBay and > Dorastori is currently going for GBP4.20 which is highly reasonable. > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZadfrenchehoQQsosortorderZ1QQsos > ortpropertyZ1 Have you seen the email on the Gloranthan Digest from Ian Thomson who is selling his RQ/Gloranthan stuff? I don't have it with me, as I deleted it, but it is not on eBay. He should have a good collection. Leon Kirshtein: > I have a sorcerer who wishes to cast a Resist Fire > spell on a ship. Would the spell cover the entire > vessel? Would the intensity be reduced? > > I would like to hear your opinions, As a general rule of thumb, we played that spells cast on a ship affect 1 cubic metre per point of spell. Or was it one point of Seaworthiness or 1 Hull Point? I can't remember, but I think it depended on the spell. Anyway, if you go for 1 metre (or yard) per point of spell then you have to cast a big spell or lots of small spells to cover a ship. If a spell has an area effect, then we worked out the area affected and made sure it covered the ship. We have cast spells such as Warp Wood on a ship to damage Hull Points and Repair to restore Hull Points. Resist Fire/Damage Protection and similar spells should be able to be cast on a ship. However, we were always a bit vague when using ships. Combat was always PC-NPC (or PC-PC) with the ships acting as platforms. Also, one of our PCs had a magical limpet shell that created a man-sized hole when it was attacjed to a ship and another that made all the joints leak when attached to a ship. Both were extremely useful, I must say. See Ya Simon ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Fri Oct 22 18:15:12 2004 From: Nick.Middleton at invensys.com (Nick.Middleton at invensys.com) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:15:12 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RQ Questworld a la Games Workshop Message-ID: >I've recently been flipping through some old issues of White Dwarf from >the mid 80's or so, back when Questworld was the "next big thing" for RQ. > >There's mention of Games Workshop coming out with its own pack for >Questworld and some of the interesting stuff that was to be included in >that. > >Does anyone here know if that ever saw the light of day? My memory of the situation is hazy, but no I don't think so. Beyond an article or possibly two in White Dwarf, nothing ever came of GW's QuestWorld (Google threw up this : http://glorantha.temppeli.org/digest/gd6/1998.07/0395.html ) Rick's write up is here: http://www.glorantha.info/runequest/chaosium/questworld/questworld.html For what it's worth, my own recollection from the time is that the article in WD38 didn't do enough to sell the Questworld setting: die hard Glorantha 'philes were happy with Glorantrha (this was the heyday of RQ2 after all) and poor sixth formers like me balked at the price, especially when we were happily making our own settings... Ahh, happier more innocents times - little did we know that in a scant few years the behemoth of RQ3 would lurch in to view and kill RQ as a commercially viable game in the UK by pricing it beyond it's fans reach (?45 for an RPG? In 1984!) It is remotely possible that if you can get in touch with Oliver Dickinson he might remember more about GW's QuestWorld plans. I have never however seen hide nor hair of Bob McWilliams on the internet, which is a shame as he's about the only "name" from the early White Dwarf days who isn't... Cheers, Nick Middleton From slposey at concentric.net Sat Oct 23 03:01:40 2004 From: slposey at concentric.net (Stephen Posey) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:01:40 -0700 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RQ Questworld a la Games Workshop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41793CF4.9010208@concentric.net> Nick.Middleton at invensys.com wrote: >>I've recently been flipping through some old issues of White Dwarf from >>the mid 80's or so, back when Questworld was the "next big thing" for RQ. >> >>There's mention of Games Workshop coming out with its own pack for >>Questworld and some of the interesting stuff that was to be included in >>that. >> >>Does anyone here know if that ever saw the light of day? > > > My memory of the situation is hazy, but no I don't think so. Beyond an > article or possibly two in White Dwarf, nothing ever came of GW's > QuestWorld (Google threw up this : > http://glorantha.temppeli.org/digest/gd6/1998.07/0395.html ) > > Rick's write up is here: > http://www.glorantha.info/runequest/chaosium/questworld/questworld.html I've got the US boxed set. > For what it's worth, my own recollection from the time is that the article > in WD38 didn't do enough to sell the Questworld setting: die hard Glorantha > 'philes were happy with Glorantrha (this was the heyday of RQ2 after all) > and poor sixth formers like me balked at the price, especially when we were > happily making our own settings... Ahh, happier more innocents times - > little did we know that in a scant few years the behemoth of RQ3 would > lurch in to view and kill RQ as a commercially viable game in the UK by > pricing it beyond it's fans reach (?45 for an RPG? In 1984!) It didn't do all that much for RQ here in the States either. The boxed pre-printed character sheets are one of the biggest jokes and "white elephants" among RPG collectors; even otherwise staunch RQ completists tend to avoid them. > It is remotely possible that if you can get in touch with Oliver Dickinson > he might remember more about GW's QuestWorld plans. I have never however > seen hide nor hair of Bob McWilliams on the internet, which is a shame as > he's about the only "name" from the early White Dwarf days who isn't... Very cool, thanks for the info. I was just curious about a few stray comments in a couple of later "Runerites" columns regarding various monsters and rules additions that were supposedly slated to be included in the the set; particularly some new types of undead and some rules drawing distinction between genuine UNdead and something they were terming "living" dead. I would have liked to have seen that. I suspect both Chaosium and GW are sitting on all sorts of interesting unpublished materials (though perhaps GW has either returned or burned its stuff by now in the Warhammer putches). Too bad some BRP/RQ-philes couldn't dig through their files and archives and pull out the best of all that and produce a "From the Chaosium Vaults" volume or something. That would be cool and fun. Stephen Posey slposey at concentric.net From slposey at concentric.net Sat Oct 23 04:18:25 2004 From: slposey at concentric.net (Stephen Posey) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:18:25 -0700 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Anybody else spotted this? In-Reply-To: <41793CF4.9010208@concentric.net> References: <41793CF4.9010208@concentric.net> Message-ID: <41794EF1.7090105@concentric.net> Basic Roleplaying Creatures Book (monograph) http://catalog.chaosium.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=590 I'm guessing this is mostly a reformatting of the RQ3 creatures book in parallel with new BRP the monograph Players and Magic books. Stephen Posey slposey at concentric.net From Nick.Middleton at invensys.com Mon Oct 25 18:08:06 2004 From: Nick.Middleton at invensys.com (Nick.Middleton at invensys.com) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:08:06 +0100 Subject: [RQ-Rules] RQ Questworld a la Games Workshop Message-ID: >> It is remotely possible that if you can get in touch with Oliver Dickinson >> he might remember more about GW's QuestWorld plans. I have never however >> seen hide nor hair of Bob McWilliams on the internet, which is a shame as >> he's about the only "name" from the early White Dwarf days who isn't... > >Very cool, thanks for the info. > >I was just curious about a few stray comments in a couple of later >"Runerites" columns regarding various monsters and rules additions that >were supposedly slated to be included in the the set; particularly some >new types of undead and some rules drawing distinction between genuine >UNdead and something they were terming "living" dead. I would have liked >to have seen that. Ooh, that does sound intriguing... >I suspect both Chaosium and GW are sitting on all sorts of interesting >unpublished materials (though perhaps GW has either returned or burned >its stuff by now in the Warhammer putches). since as far as I know there are no RQ fans (or indeed 'fans' of any sort...) left at Workshop, I doubt it. The organisation changed internally quite dramatically in the late eighties and leveraged that change by relocating to Nottingham, thus allowing them to sack the entire London staff and only re-hire those who were prepared to relocate... It has for the last fifteen years been a tremendously successful collectible miniatures company and as it's last few forays into "RPG" (Warhammer Quest, Inquisitor, the new Warhammer FRP) amply demonstrate it no longer has the in house understanding or expertise in traditional tabletop RPG's to deal with them, so I suspect that any GW home grown ideas for QuestWorld were long ago recycled in to Warhammer. >Too bad some BRP/RQ-philes couldn't dig through their files and archives >and pull out the best of all that and produce a "From the Chaosium >Vaults" volume or something. That would be cool and fun. When I started re-building my RPG collection four years back, the gem in the ?50 bundle of new (still in shrink wrap) RQ stuff I got wasn't the Deluxe RQ Perfect Bound Book, nor Gods of Glorantha, Troll Gods or Elder Secrets... It was Wyrms Footprints, the collection of re-prints from Wyrms Notes. There was wealth of material in Different worlds, White Dwarf and various fanzines that I wish was available now... Ah well, maybe Deluxe Basic Role Playing will galvanise things and some previously undiscovered gems will appear? Lets hope so! Cheers, Nick Middleton From lancelot at inetnebr.com Sat Oct 30 12:03:31 2004 From: lancelot at inetnebr.com (lance dyas) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:03:31 -0500 Subject: [RQ-Rules] Sorcery variant for BRP/RQ In-Reply-To: <00c201c474ef$a724a960$9d2aa8c0@skadebyran.se> References: <00c201c474ef$a724a960$9d2aa8c0@skadebyran.se> Message-ID: <4182F673.5000103@inetnebr.com> OK I know I am responding to an old post... still Peter I just wanted to say that the wizardries base skills are quite slick (although I have seen very similar in TORG ) your implementation may be better. abjuration, conjuration, manipulation, transformation, divination ( as well as enchantment, illusionry) These are good skills... but I think they need to accompany skills such as pyromancy, hydromancy, aeromancy, geomancy, biomancy, herbomancy, necromancy, perhaps temporomancy or other (nouns) Hydromancy Divinations Perhaps it allowed one to track the path of a boat through the water or determine what animal or being drank last from a cup of fluid (if even a drop remains). Or it might tell me what the drink was... Perhaps with tempormancy mixed in this might be staring into a scrying pool to divine the sea-side villages future. Peter Brink wrote: >Sorry for posting this on both brpsystem and rq-rules, but when >Chaosium are publishing the RQ III magic rules under the BRP brand, >"crossovers" are inevitable. > >In any case I've put together a rules variant usable with both RQ and >most likely the majority of BRP games. These rules are inspired by >ideas from Sandy Petersen's Sorcery rules, Magica (a port of the AD&D >magic system to RQ) and the Ars Magica, Harnmaster and GURPS magic >rules. > >The idea was to create a rules system that can be used with spells >ported from AD&D, Ars Magica, GURPS and Harnmaster. > >Anyway, the rules variant is available as a pdf file: >www.rollspelshornan.se/files/wizardry.pdf >I have also created a few run of the mill spells, they can be accessed >at: >www.rollspelshornan.se/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/BasicRolePlaying/WizardrySpel >ls >I've have written a short text detailing a "magic theory", as written >it's not specific to any particular setting. The document is not >needed to use the rules, but the rules document does refer to a term >in the magic theory document. In any case, this document is also >available as a PDF file: www.rollspelshornan.se/files/magic_theory.pdf > >Comments and criticism are most welcome! > >/Peter > > > > -- Google Me at : Decision Driven Rolegaming -- Lance Dyas Destiny Diceless Roleplaying - at the Decision Driven Gaming Center http://www.dyasdesigns.com/roleplay/decision_driven.html