From: owner-rq-rules-digest To: rq-rules-digest@hops.wharton.upenn.edu Subject: RQ Rules Digest: V2 #7 Reply-To: rq-rules Errors-To: owner-rq-rules-digest Precedence: bulk Content-Return: Prohibited Return-Path: owner-rq-rules-digest RQ Rules Digest: Thursday, 13 July 1995 Volume 02 : Number 007 TABLE OF CONTENTS Kevin Rose arrows Steve Bonnot arrows rstaats@mail.lmi.org Missile Weapons Michael A. Derry Monarach Avalon for sale Robert McArthur slave bracelets Phil Johnson slave bracelets RULES OF THE ROAD 1. Do not include large sections of a message in your reply. Especially not to add "Yeah, I agree" or "No, I disagree." Or be excoriated. If someone writes something good and you want to say "good show" please do. But don't include the whole message you praise. 2. Use an appropriate Subject line. 3. Learn the art of paraphrasing: Don't just quote and comment on a point-by-point basis. When paraphrasing you demonstrate exactly how well you understand the point someone was trying to make. 4. There is no number 4. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Rose Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: arrows > > > What do you consider significant factors to be taken into account? What > > do you think the chance of a horse archer (100% with bow and ride), on a > > horse in a run, shooting a running man at 200 meters? I'd say it is > > maybe 10% per shot. > > Maybe - and that's the operative word. We just don't know. I remember thinking > that the stories of the gunslingers of the "wild west" was crud about the speed > and accuracy. Then I saw a TV (shock, horror) show on one guy who was *good*. > Very good. He had just practiced a lot, like they did back 'den. > > Imagine a person virtually born on a horse. Their only toy was a bow. Everyone > they looked up to used these weapons (horse and bow) as second nature. They > were "at one" with their horse. Can you imagine what their ability is really > like? I _imagine_ that you'd lose a lot of money betting on it being 10% (in > the situation above). I'd _guess_ closer to 40-50% (for the person described > here). Other guesses? You can get some idea of how good people are by looking at the what an Olympic level archer can do, vs the type of target they use. Of course, they are at shorter range, standing, shooting against a fixed target. Shooting at a target that is over 2 seconds away, moving 10-15 ft during the time of flight, is an order of magnitude more difficult than shooting at a standing target. When the shooting is also moving on a horse, which does not provide a particualrly stable platform (although it is probably more stable than it appears, due to techniques used by horse archers) this becomes very difficult. I can easily belive that an expert could be expected to hit a man sized target at 200 meters using a comp bow, as long as the target and the shooter are both standing. With them both moving the firing solution becomes much more difficult. Kevin Rose ------------------------------ From: Steve Bonnot Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:34:43 -0700 Subject: Re: arrows > > What do you consider significant factors to be taken into account? What > > do you think the chance of a horse archer (100% with bow and ride), on a > > horse in a run, shooting a running man at 200 meters? I'd say it is > > maybe 10% per shot. Here is how I determine the chance to hit. Rider is skilled in horse archery so can fire from a horse at galloping speed. Target is moving a full run. 1/2 skill drop (now 50%) Target is at long range. 1/2 skill drop (skill is 25% chance to hit) I try to keep it as simple as possible. 200 meters with a bow is tough to hit with penetration. I was a professional target archer. Hitting a 200 meter target with any accuracy is difficult. Hitting a moving target is probably close to the percentage stated above. Steven Bonnot ------------------------------ From: rstaats@mail.lmi.org Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 14:38:30 EST Subject: Missile Weapons Greetings! Sorry for the delay in response. My system was down for a bit. I concur wholeheartedly that we do not want to turn missile weapons into ``super'' weapons. My vote is for five meta-areas (i.e. skill modifiers) when using a missile weapon: (1) Range to target (2) Extremes in SIZ of target (3) Visibility for the archer, slinger, etc. (4) Active dodging attempts by the target. (5) Stability of the platform from which the archer, etc. fires from. Rich Staats ------------------------------ From: mad@guest.apple.com (Michael A. Derry) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:33:27 PDT Subject: Monarach Avalon for sale Rumor mongering again. Dale Wetzelberger posted to the ASL List the following: >Subject: Monarach Avalon for sale > >According to this morning's Baltimore Sun "Monarch Avalon (Avalon >Hill)...put itself up for sale yesterday, saying that increased competition >in the game business and the costs of starting up a new girls' magazine were >draining its cash." > >"Monarch Chairman A. Eric Dott said yesterday that he had retained Mercantile >Bank & Trust Co. advisers to 'explore strategic alternatives' becase the >company has been losing money for years, and its cash cushion has dropped >from $2.3 million to $1.1 million in less than six months." > >"Although Mr. Dott said tha alternative s included sale, merger ot 'other >similar tranactions, ' others inside the company said a sale is likely. > >The article goes on the explain how the Girl's Like magazine has been a drain >on the company but that the quality of the recent computer games have been >strong. The article says "the industry in general is excited about the >upcomming Beyond Squad Leader that could be one of the best war game sellers >of all time." > >The article also comments that the games have been hard to find on retailers' >shelves and that company advertizing has not been strong. ------------------------------ From: Robert McArthur Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:36:09 +1000 (EST) Subject: slave bracelets A quickie: Do slave bracelets temporarily (or permanently) break the mindlink to an allied spirit? Break either the binding link or mindlink to any bound spirits? I would think not except perhaps temporarily. The problem is the bound spirits - even a temporary break would, I would think, let them go. Comments? Robert McArthur ------------------------------ From: "Phil Johnson" Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:59:24 GMT+800 Subject: Re: slave bracelets You Wrote, > A quickie: > > Do slave bracelets temporarily (or permanently) break the mindlink to > an allied spirit? Break either the binding link or mindlink to any bound > spirits? I would think not except perhaps temporarily. The problem is the > bound spirits - even a temporary break would, I would think, let them go. > Comments? > > Robert McArthur > And I Say With allied spirits I've always had slave bracelets and magic fulx zones suppres allied spirits unless they were in an object and left the owner for a long period of time however if such a spirit was bonded within a tattoo or ritual scarring then this to me was also a blood bonding and very difficult to break as killing the character was usually involved ( however getting one's character into slave bracelet to me deserves everything they get ). Phil Johnson. P.S. Pretty mean a. - ----------------------------------------------------------- COME!, Fly the teeth of the wind, share my wings. ------------------------------ End of RQ Rules Digest: V2 #7 ***************************** This is the bottom of the RuneQuest Rules Digest. 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